KNIGHTS OF DOOM
Jonathan Green
Reviewed by Mark Lain
This book has
a problem. In fact, it has two problems – Spellbreaker
and Dead Of Night. If it weren’t for
the brilliance of these previous two books, Knights
Of Doom would qualify as the last genuinely great FF from the original series.
As it stands, if you have never read either of these other two books, KoD is indeed pretty great. If you have
read either (or both), then it doesn’t take a genius to notice what is lifted
from where and makes KoD seem like
old news, even though it is still a good book all the same.
The entire
structure (make your way around a pre-defined map of your homeland, visiting
various towns and being sent on side missions in each) mirrors both books. This
is not a criticism as such in that FFs can be given more structure if you can
trace your route on a “published” map of the area (plus you may well know your
homeland anyway) and get more of an idea of where you are going and how close
you are to the end, but the fact that this is set in Ruddlestone again (where Spellbreaker is set) does make it seem a
bit samey. You could equally, of course, argue that this flows logically on
from Spellbreaker (and you are in a
different bit of Ruddlestone) and that this gives coherence to Green’s chosen
part of Titan. Each to their own with this but, structurally, this one does seem a
bit stale to me if you play these books in their intended (released) sequence.
A
bigger problem is that the concept is so close to Dead Of Night that it’s difficult to not see this as a clone. In
both books YOU are a Templar charged with saving the land from an impending
invasion of nasties. In DoN the
scourge was Demonic, in KoD it is the
Armies of Chaos that are attacking, but the feeing/effect is much the same. The
Chaos aspect is unusual for FF as Chaos is rarely incorporated other than in
random one-off run-ins as latter-part challenges in pre-set dungeon scenarios.
In that sense it is nice to see Chaos playing a major role in a FF book. On the
other hand, this does make this book feel far too close to Warhammer material and, due to this, it does feel a little “isolated”
within the FF series as a whole. That said, Green does enjoy exploiting the history
of Titan as laid-out in Titan - The
Fighting Fantasy World and this is one of the beauties of Green’s FFs as
they really do try to link into the wider FF universe. The wars with Chaos play
a big part in Titan and this FF does
follow on from that episode logically, even if most gamers will probably notice
the Warhammer similarity before they
make the association with Titan, as
the former is more obvious.
The
book flows in the same logical way as DoN
in that the further you progress, the greater the evidence of invasion from
Chaos. You travel from North to South and, the further South you get, the more
over-run with Chaotics the environment becomes. This makes good sense and
follows DoN’s logical flow from fact-finding
to defence to final showdown in the eye of the storm. As with DoN, you also benefit from having a
horse (that, as is always the case with horses in FFs including the one in DoN, dies or bolts part-way thru), a
magic sword, and some special Templar skills. Here they are just called Special
Skills and, whilst not quite as enemy-focussed as in DoN (where you are very specifically a Demon-slaying specialist),
they are more balanced here between Warrior and Priest skills (which you would
expect from a Templar as they were as much warriors as they were holy men) and
seem to be more universally practical. You can choose four from a list of nine
options (five Warrior type and four Priest type are on offer) and, to ensure
you balance your character in a logically Templar-esque manner, you must choose
at least one of each type. The write-ups of the Warrior skills often give you a
clue as to what this adventure might involve, which is a handy inclusion:
Battle Tactics makes you better at influencing and commanding armies (and you
need to build up a decent-sized and strong force for the final section), Ride
gives you the ability to guide a horse through tough terrain and also allows
you to ride replacement mounts (a clue that you are probably going to unsurprisingly
lose your horse at some point), Target and Weapon give you acuter fighting
skills and/or accuracy (Weapon also allows you to carry and use a second weapon
which is handy as you will almost certainly lose a weapon as the story
progresses), and Tracking is a throwback to American Indian stereotypes. The
Priest Special Skills are mostly lifted straight from DoN and serve the same purposes as those found in DoN – Arcane Lore is a variation of
Speak Demon, Banish Spirit is literally Banish Undead, Commune is a more advanced
version of Meditate that allows you to detect “vibrations” from the spirit
world, whilst Holy Strike is the only new one here where you have the ability
to fire a holy blast at your enemies (making fighting the Undead pretty easy
for once.) The inclusion of these Skills adds much to the feeling of your
character being highly trained and, as with DoN,
works very well in the context and feel of this book, plus, again, there is no
correct combination and Luck rolls can often do just as well to get you through
Skill-based situations.
The
inevitable inclusion of extra attributes that later FFs almost always seem to
have is in evidence two-fold here with Honour being effectively the opposite of
Evil in DoN whilst the always
problematic Time tracks your progress compared to how much of Ruddlestone the
Chaos armies have managed to take. I am always sceptical when Time is involved,
as this does often restrict you to a pretty narrow true path and gives little
allowance for digression or exploration. OK, I accept that thwarting a Chaos invasion
is something of a race against time, but part of the fun of FF is in exploring.
Given the number of side missions that are offered to you as this book
progresses, it will take many replays to a) beat the Time trap, and b) actually
find the extremely narrow true path.
Annoyingly, the Time and Honour attributes seem to work against each other as
the only way to build up the required number of Honour points you need for the Honour
checkpoints is to help the locals and undertake side missions, but these side
missions take ages and eat up vital time making passing the Time checkpoints
all the harder.
The
main criticism of Spellbreaker (Green’s
first published FF) is the incredibly low percentage chance of actually
completing it due to the sheer number of items you need and that is very much
in evidence again here, with a shopping list that Ian Livingstone would be
proud of. There are so many essential items that it is very easy to lose this
book early on without even realising it and multiple replaying is essential to
coming anywhere close to finding the true path as it is so extremely linear. It
has also been suggested that the combats in Green’s books are unusually tough
and no FF book comes tougher in this sense than KoD due to the sheer amount
of combat that is involved. Add to that the fact that every other combat has
adjusters and this really does feel relentlessly weighted against you encounter-wise.
There is a slight gesture to fairness at the start of the book when you can
plunder your starting castle’s armoury for special weapons that do extra damage
etc, plus you can collect items along the way that will reduce opponents’
Attack Strengths and fighting the Undead is comparatively easy, but that does
not hide the fact that I’ve never seen so many modifiers in use in a FF book
and that some combats are just insanely difficult:
- · Cockatrice Sk7 St7 – deceptively easy as, every time it wins an Attack Round, you roll one die due to its poisonous breath. Roll 3, 4, or 5 and lose 1, 2 or 3 Skill, roll a 6 and you die
- · Chaos Knight Champion Sk12 St12 – if you don’t have Weapon (Lance) Special Skill you start off with AS -1, plus not having Ride is another AS -1. If it wins 2 Attack Rounds (highly likely with a Skill of 12 and your potentially only having a maximum Skill here of 10) you are unhorsed and lose 4 Stamina, followed by fighting with a further AS -2. In other words, if your Skill is only 7, you are potentially down to 3 Skill here!
- · Four Chaos Centaurs Sk10/9/10/9 St9/10/10/11 – if you don’t have Ride, again you have AS -2. If a Centaur hits you, you roll one die and take -3 Stamina damage on an odd number roll. If you hit a Centaur, again, you roll one die and an odd number means you only inflict -1 Stamina of damage to it
- · Hill Giant Sk9 St11 – roll one die every time it wins an Attack Round. If you roll a 5 you lose 3 Stamina. Roll a 6 and you are knocked over, taking 1 Attack Round to get back up which gives the Giant a free hit on you
- · Ogre Overseer Sk9 St10 – roll one die every time it wins an Attack Round. Roll a 6 and it steals your weapon, causing you to fight on with AS -3
- · Beast Man Champion Sk12 St14 – does -3 Stamina damage every time it hits you (again, likely to be quite often!)
- · Belgaroth Sk12 St17 – the final baddie. His armour means you only ever do him -1 Stamina damage, but he does you -3 Stamina and -1 Honour. If your Honour drops to zero, you have gone over to the dark side (but at least this tough battle is justified as he’s the big boss)
- · Beast Man Shaman Sk8 St7 – if he wins the first Attack Round you lose 5 Stamina
- · Chaos Warrior Sk10 St9 – does you -3 Stamina damage and you fight with AS -1 due to being on a battlement. If it ever gets AS 22 (ie it rolls a 12) you fall off and die
- · Knight of the Flame Sk12 St12 – does you -3 Stamina damage
- · Cailleach Sk12 St12 – Test your Skill before every Attack Round, fail and you are transfixed with fear allowing it to automatically win that round
- · Iron Golem Sk10 St16 – you only ever inflict -1 Stamina damage on it, but it always does you -3 Stamina damage. If you roll a double you have smashed your sword and then have to fight with AS -3. If it wins two consecutive Attack Rounds it throws you against a wall causing you one die of damage
The
sheer number and difficulty of many of the combats makes winning this book with
low starting attributes all but impossible and you will need above average
scores in all of Skill, Stamina and Luck to stand any chance in general, as you
are also faced with numerous Skill and Luck tests throughout the book as well,
especially near the end, with many of these resulting in death if you fail
them.
As
this book is so incredibly difficult due to the combination of narrow true
path, many items being needed, Honour vs Time, and a seemingly never-ending
series of (often very tough) combats, you could be forgiven for thinking that
there is no enjoyment to be had in playing it but, just like Spellbreaker before it, KoD is so rich in period atmosphere and
historically detailed cameos that it makes for a very interesting gamebook.
Along the way you can find yourself being accosted by what is basically Robin
Hood and his Merry Men, get involved in a Wicker Man rescue attempt, visit a
group of tumuli on a misty hill, kill various things that are tormenting the
locals including a Necromage (another near-copy of a side mission in Dead Of Night) and the aforementioned nightmares
that are the Cockatrice and the Cailleach, go on a boar hunt from Cleeve Manor
(that turns out to lead to an unexpected plot twist much later in the book),
and help a Dwarf defend his house from an all-night Hellhound attack (again,
pretty much a copy of an incident in DoN.)
All these (as unoriginal as some of them are) add a lot of fun and rich detail
to the land of Ruddlestone (which was already richly presented in Spellbreaker so this adds even more) and
really makes you feel involved in the plot. There is even an ongoing episode
where a flying assassin’s dagger keeps bothering you at night, plus
accidentally summoning the Demonic Slayer is a lighter moment in what is,
overall, a very dark and serious book. There are a few other humorous aspects (if
you spot them) where inns are called the Wild Goose and the Red Herring but you
could miss these given that you are probably desperately trying to stay alive.
It is also quite fun to feel that you are also up against it with the ignorant attitude
of the locals, most of whom do not like the Templar Order, and you spend a lot
of the earlier parts of the book trying to avoid being run out of town or being
lynched by wandering bigots.
With
all this on offer, this book is very involving and detailed, but (astounding
level of difficulty aside) it does suffer from a Jonathan Green-ism that I have
never particularly liked, namely the codeword idea. Spellbreaker did not include this, but from KoD onwards, reversed codewords (eg: reggad which causes the assassin’s dagger to keep harassing you)
would play a large part in how the plots of his books unfold. For me this
feature is very transparent and obvious and does not sit well with his
atmospherically very successful and well-written books (barring, maybe, Curse Of The Mummy, which is easily his
weakest effort.) Indeed, in many ways, Green’s FFs read better as novels
(atmosphere, setting, interesting events, historical elements, consistent flow,
etc) than they do as games (too difficult, very linear, out-of-place rubbish
codeword concepts, etc.)
Interestingly,
you are not only required to make your way to the final showdown alive and furnished
with lots of items but you also need to solve (often very hard) puzzles to
collect clues to getting into the final sections (the mathematical
cheat-proofing that I always like to see in FFs is pleasingly present here) and
amass groups of allies who will join you at the end and sacrifice themselves as
part of a makeshift army you need to assemble to have any chance of getting
through the final part. The climactic battle(s) make the rest of the book seem
comparatively easy and there is a real feeling that a titanic showdown against
Chaos is taking place. Green likes set-pieces (his many side missions and in-village
cameos evidence this) and this final part of the book is exciting, intimidating
and you really do feel doomed (which you probably are, in the unlikely event
you have even got this far!)
Chaos
imagery needs to be spikey and spindley and that is definitely the theme of the
art throughout this book. Tony Hough’s HR Gyger influences come through again
in his work here (like they do on the cover of #52 Night Dragon) and his Chaos images really do capture the
feeling of terror that you are supposed to be feeling. Some of his human images
are a little cartoony, but they do contrast well with the nasty appearance of
the enemy of the piece. Hough also drew the cover and his art does seem to work
better in colour. KoD’s cover is
certainly not up to the standard of his Night
Dragon cover work, but the limited pallet (purples and reds) does give a
night-time feel and there is a strange otherworldliness to it that is
appealing.
This
is a hard book to summarise. If played with no previous knowledge of Dead Of Night it would seem
exceptionally good, if exceptionally hard. As it stands, it is not original
enough to be classed as an above-average book, but it has so much material/content
depth and is very long and epic-feeling that it certainly holds up well,
especially as it came so late in the original series. It is a good effort, but
is just too difficult to be considered as essential. Play it and enjoy it for
its atmosphere and the obvious effort that has gone into it, but don’t expect
to be able to beat it – even the online solutions are only suggested approaches
and are dependent on being very lucky with dice rolling! Incidentally, this is
the only one of Jonathan Green’s FFs that hasn’t been re-issued (or published
full stop) by Wizard Books meaning that collectors routinely pay £20+ for
decent condition copies.
An interesting and very thorough review. I'm interested to know what you would use instead of codewords.
ReplyDeleteAs it's a plot device to keep things flowing there has to be something written in that can be a cue for a cause/effect scenario that can be repeated as needed. It's difficult to build something into the gamebook format that would allow for this, so I can see why codewords are included to get around what would just write itself in a standard RPG (assuming the GM remembers!) Perhaps just DAG for dagger or something - the backwards words just jar with me
ReplyDeleteAs I remember, this book has the most unfair game device in the entire series- having to pick a message hidden within a song (or maybe it was a poem) with absolutely no hint or direction for the reader to do so. Other than that, I think it's quite enjoyable if challenging entry.
ReplyDeleteThe main criticism of Spellbreaker (Green’s first published FF) is the incredibly low percentage chance of actually completing it due to the sheer number of items you need
ReplyDeleteNot just the number of items, but also the fact that there is at best a 1 in 12 chance of getting one of the essential ones. The quality of the writing lifts Mr. Green's first two FF books above the likes of Crypt of the Sorcerer and Chasms of Malice, but as regards playability, they're equally bad.
I appreciate the honesty of your comments as well as the positive things you have to say about the quality of my writing.
ReplyDeleteI have written on the subject of the difficulty of my early gamebooks many times, and feel that the gamebooks I have written in more recent years show that I have learned from the mistakes I made, and criticism I received in the past.
On the subject of codewords, I changed to simple words rather than backwards words for Night of the Necromancer, for exactly the reason you state. What I like about codewords is that they are a way of keeping track of events that may have occurred or characters the player might have meant without giving away exactly where or who (which might give a player clues as to what they should do in the next read through).
Ed - I disagree with your remarks about the playability of Spellbreaker and KoD being "equally [as] bad" as Crypt of the Sorcerer and Chasms of Malice. Crypt is a good book to play with some nice cameos included, it just gets disheartening when it becomes apparent that it'll take 500 attempts to find the very narrow true path. As regards CoM, few FFs are as relentlessly unfair (not to mention, interminably boring) as CoM - Green's gamebook construction and design are far superior to Luke Sharp's efforts IMHO
ReplyDeleteJonathan Green-great seeing him at the Fantasy Fest I dared attend in Sept 2014, I love he shows his knowledge/devotion to FF with his exemplary detail-i.e just 'Curse of Mummy' entirely different to the beings in only other desert book 'Temple Of Terror' by Livingstone long ago; featured a Dracon in a first ever appearance included its obsession with manners, its neutral attitude, its desire to mock and escape if losing fights and its honourableness regarding a treasure. He also used the Caarth in numbers, mummified animals, a Decayer for the first time, a Sand Golem (never used before), Scitalis and also remembered a Sentinel can only be harmed with the material its made from, something Livingstone did NOT state when he first used one in 'Caverns Of The Snow Witch'. I'd love to know what weapon could possibly harm the Iron Golem in this 'Knights Of Doom' book.
ReplyDeleteWith this book, like with 'Crypt', I think its fine to "move" scores about a bit, just so you can get through the ridiculously hard/impossible true path. Just winning one battle without fighting here and there, and taking a bonus for an important extra weapon ABOVE Initial scores should be fine!
Malthus-I'm loving your constant refs to 'Dead Of Night'-one of my fave gamebooks-the only one where so many different Demons are included and you are a Templar for a change. And I love Myurr, always have, the cheeky little wee scrubber! I think Johnny Green must have loved it too. Blatant perhaps, but flattering, yes! After all, so many of the later books are the true corkers ('Demons Of The Deep', 'Talisman Of Death', 'Sword Of The Samurai', 'Portal Of Evil', 'Master Of Chaos' etc.) but barely get a mention, so this cheeky lifting from 'Dead Of Night' is cool with me. Still lifting though!
It's funny I don't find 'Crypt's' true path that tricky for memory or logic-you soon realise Livingstone wants you to explore ALMOST EVERYWHERE, ALMOST EVERYTHING and FIGHT ALMOST EVERYTHING SEARCH ALMOST EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING. In a sense it's easy cos, unlike the beautifully detailed likes of 'Demons', 'Portal', 'Battleblade' and others where you can cleverly miss WHOLE AREAS of useful stuff by merely going a way that doesn't offer any other earlier choices nor gives a hint of what you may miss (extremely smart I think), 'Crypt' insists on covering almost every area of the journey to stop Razaak. Great book but IMPOSSIBLE to do without tweaking the dice though with books like these I found fair but necessary ways to do it. I take what I roll, I just "shuffle". So I roll 5 dice to starts for stats-any 1 or 2 is used for the Harpoon Flies to shoot you, and any 12 or 11 is used for SKILL, with the least high number (3-4) used for LUCK as it's amazingly used less in this than you'd think, probably cos so many decisions are decided by rolling a 1-3, 4-6 or any of them, which often results in death. Plus about 2 battles should be won without being fought (I select one from the overcrowded Lost Lake bit) and also one of the Doragars in the tunnel. I also take my SKILL over 12 for getting the Defender-which the text should say, and put in LUCK points at a few bits where you would. I juggle die rolls by whatevers near each other-i.e rolling for healed STAMINA from Jella and then for the oncoming hurled rock by the Hill Giant you really HAVE to fight! As it lessens the chance of getting a 1 or 2, so I can use it for healing if I do roll it!
I do hope 'Knights Of Doom' gets another release. I'll sort it out when it appears to make it achievable. At least it sounds brimming with excellent beings, not like 'Chasms Of Malice', which is one I skimmed back in the day but never got yet. I hated the way he spelt Gryphon-who spells it like that? It's SKILL was stupid-7 if I remember-way too low. That Sharpe guy who worte it was an extremely young kid I think, the cheeky bleeder making it so hard. But WHY was it so hard. I barely remember any encounters of worth in it. Considering the wealth of different beings in all of Livingstone's (which I always applaud him for, even if he makes them hard to deal with), this must surely be the main reason 'Chasms' is so boring-and what a place to sit-between 2 cool books like 'Midnight Rogue' and 'Battlebalde Warrior'! I mean the latter and 'Fangs Of Fury', plus 'Master Of Chaos' boldly feature less differing foes, concentrating more on mutants or armies of creatures from one main army (Orcs or Liz Men) but the stories were great, the quests unique with little areas of fun (the first Orc funeral, hagning out with Gobs and Orcs, chatting like we're mates while being saved/helped by tonnes of great fighting women)s, but 'Chasms' doesn't sound like this. I'll still get it-NOTHING can surely be worse than the double aimless bores of 'Slaves Of The Abyss' amd 'Black Vein Prophecy'. This two digit no. ending on 2 has me rattled-despite the standalone No.2 ('Citadel Of Chaos)' every book with a 2 as the last number (12, 22, 32, 42, has been a major disappointment). I fear for no.52! And 62!
ReplyDeleteLast good FF? What about Magehunter ;-)
ReplyDeleteI think you've just proved my point lol
DeleteI love Magehunter but can understand why others don't.
DeleteGreat to see Jonathan Green on this site!
I classify FF books into 2 categories: ones that you can probably play as intended (such as Sorcery! or Forest Of Doom) and read-only "cheat" ones you should play with no dice and a spare finger as bookmark in the entry you came from. This is definitely the latter (fights, preserving hp and true path are all impossibly hard) but damn if it's not a good one, a very fun read.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to put it in the "ones you can play after knowing the true path" group but it also happens to have a bit where you can only find a clue by FAILING a Luck roll, which has got to be he biggest bs ever lol.
I don't understand which items count as weapons, and which don't here, and would like this to have been clarified better, given that you're limited to just two if them.
ReplyDeleteThe rules text suggests that you can't carry the Assassin's Dagger or the Twisted Staff without abandoning one of your main two weapons, and I'm not sure this is intended by the book.